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PostSubject: Could Animals Talk Before the Fall?   Could Animals Talk Before the Fall? Icon_minitimeFri Sep 11, 2009 5:46 am

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4. God therefore commanded that Adam and his wife should eat of all the rest of the plants, but to abstain from the tree of knowledge; and foretold to them, that if they touched it, it would prove their destruction. But while all the living creatures had one language, (5) at that time the serpent, which then lived together with Adam and his wife, shewed an envious disposition, at his supposal of their living happily, and in obedience to the commands of God; and imagining, that when they disobeyed them, they would fall into calamities, he persuaded the woman, out of a malicious intention, to taste of the tree of knowledge, telling them, that in that tree was the knowledge of good and evil; which knowledge, when they should obtain, they would lead a happy life; nay, a life not inferior to that of a god: by which means he overcame the woman, and persuaded her to despise the command of God. Josephus ,Antiquities of the Jews


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PostSubject: Re: Could Animals Talk Before the Fall?   Could Animals Talk Before the Fall? Icon_minitimeFri Sep 11, 2009 10:06 am

Depends on if plants are considered living creatures.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Animals Talk Before the Fall?   Could Animals Talk Before the Fall? Icon_minitimeFri Sep 11, 2009 12:05 pm

Wind wrote:
Depends on if plants are considered living creatures.
According to the Bible, therefore according to God, no because life is in the blood. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Could Animals Talk Before the Fall?   Could Animals Talk Before the Fall? Icon_minitimeFri Sep 11, 2009 12:40 pm

I believe animals could talk. Think about it, Eve didn't think it was strange when the serpent started talking to her. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Could Animals Talk Before the Fall?   Could Animals Talk Before the Fall? Icon_minitimeFri Sep 11, 2009 8:57 pm

Holy Roller Princess wrote:
I believe animals could talk. Think about it, Eve didn't think it was strange when the serpent started talking to her. Very Happy


Also , God made it so a donkey could talk.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Animals Talk Before the Fall?   Could Animals Talk Before the Fall? Icon_minitimeFri Sep 11, 2009 9:33 pm

One problem I have with the animals talking idea:

Animals are not as intelligent as man. Even with the ability to talk, would they have anything even remotely intelligent to say? If they were intelligent to have speech, would it not be cruel that animals not have souls, and when they die, they die?

(I believe that animals do not have souls, but that's another argument)

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PostSubject: Re: Could Animals Talk Before the Fall?   Could Animals Talk Before the Fall? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 12, 2009 3:12 pm

Gen 1:24: And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

Gen 1:26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth


Maybe it's this.


Creatures refering to just animals and not humans.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Animals Talk Before the Fall?   Could Animals Talk Before the Fall? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 12, 2009 4:51 pm

(Whoa, I'm confused as to why my post was edited with a reply to my question. O_O)

I guess it's possible that animals talked before the fall, and were intelligent, and then after the fall, when they could die, God turned them unintelligent? I dunno. It's interesting to think about.

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